Today I am revisiting a past post: Parent Alert 1: What AWANA Leaders are Saying, regarding the “here and now” phrase used by Kevin White at the Awana Summit conference.
Summit’s not about “here and now”; it’s about “there and then.”
I’m still not sure what “there and then” means, but I recently heard of an Awana leader of the T&T (Truth and Training grade 4–6) who in the council time, after explaining the gospel (which was done well, I understand) used the phrase “here and now” and “kingdom now.” My friend’s two children both heard the talk.
This Awana Club is at a smaller quite conservative Bible church in the outskirts of Phoenix. If these concepts are mentioned in this smaller church, it makes me think that there is much undermining of the truth of God’s Word being done in churches of all sizes across the country. And it is quite possible that:
1. Leaders aren’t aware that they are adding to the gospel.
2. Parents don’t know what is being told to their children.
In researching, I again found information on the Awana site that is very grieving to me, so, I am revisiting Awana on my blog.
1. “Here and now” and layers of meaning.
I am in no way saying this leader knew about or was intentionally using the phrase to mean anything other than just words. But words mean things. I was surprised at the following information, some of which was forwarded to me.
Well, this was a new vocabulary phrase for me. Apparently, the phrase was coined by, Eric Voegelin, a political philosopher in his 1952 book, “The New Science of Politics.”
“To immanentize the eschaton means trying to make the eschaton (transcendent, spiritual, or future; the end of days) in the immanent (within the limits of possible experience) world.”
Don’t immanentize the eschaton, then means, should you prefer understandable English: “Don’t try to make that which belongs to the afterlife happen here and now,” or “Don’t try to create heaven on earth.”
“It is also being used by libertarians to criticise George W. Bush and the neo-conservative movement . In this context it means “trying to make that which belongs to the afterlife happen here and now (on Earth)” or “trying to create heaven here on Earth.”—from wikipedia, Immanentize the eschaton
The last comment above will connect to “Kingdom Now” which I will talk about in Awana: Here and Now—Part 2.
These next references refer not to a political kingdom of here and now, but, as I understand it, to the Buddhist concept of life happening “here and now.” On one site, I found what they said was Buddha’s summary of the correct attitude and actions in the Eight-fold Noble path. This is one of the points: Correct mindfulness: try to be aware of the “here and now”, instead of dreaming in the “there and then”.
If you are brave, google: “here and now”, buddhism.
Other places I found “here and now”.
A Book: Here and Now: Living in the Spirit by contemplative author, Henri Nouwen
The Teaching of the Buddha also has six supreme qualities [here is the third one]:
Akāliko (Sanskrit: Akālika “immediate”). The Dhamma is able to bestow timeless and immediate results here and now, for which there is no need to wait until the future or next existence.
So what exactly is “Here & Now”? It means literally being “here” and “now.” It results from keeping the mind where the body is and from the absence of thought while in a heightened state of awareness. In this state, the mind stands still, unthinking—not darting to the past, jumping to the future, or analyzing and drawing inaccurate conclusions. “Mind” and “body” become One, uniting the physical body with its inherent inner Stillness; a state that transcends time and space.
With a strong focus on safety, proper allignment, breath control and the intuitive flow of the asanas, shakti teaches the students how to create and retain prana (sanskrit for lifeforce) while stilling the mind into a meditative enjoyment of the present moment. This DVD is an unforgettable journey into a world of yoga from a truly inspired and inspirational teacher.
What does the BOOK say?
“Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.“—Matthew 22:29
“That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”—1 Corinthians 2:5
“A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.”—Galatians 5:9
“To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”—Acts 26:18
“But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!“—Matthew 6:23
“This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”
—1 John 1:5