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God’s Faithfulness and Truth

O LORD, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.—Isaiah 25:1.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:—Isaiah 26:3, 4.

It is closing in on three years since I last posted on this site. I received an email from Julie C. (see below) today and thought I would write a very short update.

I appreciate Julie’s (and others) encouragement and I wanted to let Julie know that I have continued to be in the “good fight,” but that it has been incredibly intense at times.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.—Ephesians 6:13.

The battle is real, but the Lord is faithful. And sometimes all you can do is stand.

Ok, well, I cannot even begin to thank you enough for doing so much homework on Tozer and for knowing God’s word so well.

I had been led to believe that Tozer was a trustworthy source namely by the Berean Call….so this is troubling. Although, I must say that shortly after I became a Christian, I tried to read one of his books but had such a hard time understanding it that I figured it was because of my lack of Bible knowledge. Now, I praise The Lord for protecting me from harm!

I also want to encourage you to get back into the good fight because we all need each other and desperately. I understand that you need to be there for your family first though.

My children are now in their mid-twenties and praise The Lord I do have more time for studying. And praise The Lord, He must be coming soon!

Lord bless you and keep you,
Julie C.

God’s Word or Man’s Words and Experience 3D Part 6 Burning hearts and souls afire

3 D Part 5 Hearts burning, souls on fire: 1934 to 1952

God’s WORD

    “Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.”—John 6:68

    “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”—John 6:63

    “But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy,
    and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”—Matthew 9:13

Note: You may be interested in reading the first part of 3D Part 5 which includes some information pertaining to 3D Parts 5-9.


The Summit Lighthouse
The Summit Lighthouse is an organization founded by Mark L. Prophet in 1958, and was later joined by his wife Elizabeth Clare Prophet. Their followers believe they are messengers of the Ascended Masters.

The organization encompasses branches of Church Universal and Triumphant, Summit University, Summit University Press, and Montessori International.

“The flame is the spiritual fire within your heart—a divine spark that is your own portion of Spirit. Nurturing and developing this flame is key to your soul’s eternal union with your Higher Self…”—Summit Lighthouse,


Mark and Elizabeth Prophet are married
Mark and Elizabeth Prophet built on a system of rhythmic, rhyming spoken prayers called “decrees,” which originated in the I AM Religious Activity…The first section of one of the rhyming degrees reads:

“Violet fire, thou love divine, Blaze within this heart
of mine!
Thou art mercy forever true, Keep me always in tune
with you.”


Burning Monk—The Self-Immolation
“On June 11, 1963, Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk from the Linh-Mu Pagoda in Hue, Vietnam, burned himself to death at a busy intersection in downtown Saigon, Vietnam…

“Thich Quang Duc had prepared himself for his self-immolation through several weeks of meditation and had explained his motivation in letters…

“…Following his death, Thich Quang Duc was cremated and legend has it that his heart would not burn. As a result, his heart is considered Holy…his self-immolation is seen as a “religious suicide” and…justified based on Chinese Buddhist texts written between the fifth and tenth centuries C.E.


Creation in Christ, Unspoken Sermons”
by George MacDonald (1824 to 1905)
edited by Rolland Hein, first published in 1976

“The fire of God, which is his essential being, his love, his creative power, is a fire unlike its earthly symbol in this, that it is only at a distance it burns—that the farther from him, it burns the worse, and that when we turn and begin to approach him, the burning begins to change to comfort, which comfort will grow to such bliss that the heart at length cries out with a gladness no other gladness can reach…” (p 86)

“Endless must be our terror, until we come heart to heart with the fire-core of the universe, the First and the Last and the Living One!” (p 89)

“…It is not that fire will burn us if we do not worship
thus; but that the fire will burn us until we worship thus;
yea, will go on burning within us after all that is foreign
to it has yielded to its force, no longer with pain and consuming, but as the highest consciousness of life,
the presence of God.”
(p. 158, 159)


Carl Lundquist

“After Dr. Lundquist retired as President of Bethel College and Seminary [1982], he became the founder and president of the ‘Evangelical Order of the Burning Heart,’ a ‘lay retreat ministry’ which encouraged a life of devotion and prayer among Christians…”

“…Lundquists’ consistent encounter with God in prayer, silent retreats and meditative Bible study allowed him to experience a heart that had ‘burned within him.’

“…Those who have experienced the burning heart, Lundquist concluded, are more willing to take risks with God. They are more likely to value the disciplines necessary to a journey toward a mature faith. They understand well that Christian spirituality is a living relationship with Jesus Christ nurtured by spiritual disciplines and shared with a soul friend.”

“The Burning Heart became symbolic of Dr. Lundquist’s interest in Christian spirituality and the Lukan implications that Christians be led into devotion to Christ through prayer, study, and the practice of spiritual disciplines.”

“The symbol of the Burning Heart, carved in cherry wood, dons the door of the Flame Room, Bethel Seminary’s extensive collection of devotional classics…”
Information from The Baptist Pietist Clarion Vol 3 No. 1 July 2004

1984 “The Burning Heart” Newsletter, Carl Lundquist

“Early in 1984, Carl Lunquist penned the first issue of ‘the Burning Heart,’ a quarterly newsletter prepared as a follow-up for individuals who had participated in one of the Burning Heart retreats he and his wife Nancy were beginning to lead with Bethel Seminary students and across the country.”—Hansen, “A New Vocabulary: Christian Spirituality in the Life of Carl Lundquist”

Issue #3, “The Burning Heart”
Understanding Christian Spirituality
by Dr. Carl H. Lundquist
“Christian spirituality is a living relationship with Jesus Christ nurtured by spiritual disciplines shared with a soul friend.”

Issue #18, “The Burning Heart”
“The Spiritual Discipline of Silence” by Dr. Carl H. Lundquist
“…And what will we discover when we come quietly into God’s presence? Something about God and His holiness. Something about ourselves and our self-centeredness…

“The flame of love for Christ burns more brightly. We join Moses on the mountain, Jesus in the desert and Paul in Arabia. We discover that Thomas a Kempis was right when he taught the Brethren of the Common life 450
years ago that all of us can learn to love solitude and silence.”
[For a bit more information click on link at end of post.]


Hearing God:
Developing a Conversational Relationship With God”

by Dallas Willard, published 1984
Epilogue: The Way of the Burning Heart
[First published as “In search of Guidance.”]


Shepherds of Christ Ministries
“On Dec 17, 1991, My Son gave to my messenger a vision of His Sacred Heart on fire, ablaze with love for men…This is the purpose of these letters—to draw hearts to the ardent on fire love of Jesus.”

“Jesus” speaks: “Open your heart to the fire of God’s love. He is ablaze in your heart.…Love God, yourself and one another and experience the fire set aglow in your heart
and experience the warmth of His love.”


“Passion for Jesus: Growing in Extravagant Love for God”
by Mike Bickle
chapter 7 “Igniting Holy Passion”

“Jesus knows how to spur the human heart to the hot desire of extravagant, fiery bridegroom love…God transforms our spiritual identity into one of a cherished, lovesick bride. The bridal identity brings us to a unique understanding of ourselves; and it is this revelation that ushers us into the fellowship of the burning hearts.”Mike Bickle


“With Burning Hearts:
A Meditation on the Eucharistic Life”

by Henri J. M. Nouwen


“Setting Your Heart on Fire”:
Seven Invitations to Liberate Your Life by Raphael Cushni

God’s WORD

    “Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would
    love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither
    came I of myself, but he sent me.

    “Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye
    cannot hear my word.

    “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father
    ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
    not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and
    the father of it.

    “And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    “Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

    “He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear
    them not, because ye are not of God.”—John 8:42–47

3 D Part 7 Hearts burning, souls on fire: 1997 to September 2006

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God’s Word or Man’s Words and Experience: 3 D Introduction to burning heart, soul on fire, flame

3 C Fire

God’s WORD

    “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”—1 John 5:19

    “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:”
    —Colossians 1:13
    “To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.”—Luke 1:79

    “And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.”—Jude 1:23

Fire and Heart Words and Phrases
This fourth post in the “fire” section of my “God’s Word or Man’s Words and Experience” series, is turning into its own series. In the next 8 or so posts, I will be tracing the idea of a “Burning Heart” or a “soul on fire,” in a variety of belief systems from Babylon to the present.

Kundalini, tantra, witchcraft, druids, Enochian Temples, Incas, alchemy, Aztecs, sufis, shamans, initiations into different groups, Theosophy, mystics, Yoga, Alchemy, Haisdic masters, kabbala, Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Mormon beliefs to mention a few—all have a concept of fire in the heart/inner person.

Their focus is an unbiblical “experience of fire” and obtaining a oneness, a
“divine intimacy” or union with God. It is curious to me that the experience
of being “burned” by fire is elevated as to be desired, when reality teaches
us that fire is horridly painful.

God warned the Israelites not to let their children pass through fire. The Bible says there is an eternal fire that we can only be rescued from through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Burning is for the chaff, not the wheat.

God’s WORD

    “And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech,”—Leviticus 18:21

    “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,”
    —Deuteronomy 18:10

    “But he…made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen…”—2 Kings 16:3

    “And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire…”—2 Kings 17:17

    “…the Sepharvites burnt their children in fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech, the gods of Sepharvaim.”—2 Kings 17:31

    “The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.”—Psalm 46:6

    “And a fire was kindled in their company; the flame burned up the wicked.”—Psalm 106:18

    “As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”—Matthew 13:40–42

To say someone is “on fire” for the Lord in the evangelical community is commonly understood to mean someone who is intensely focused on following and serving the Lord wholeheartedly. But that is not what many of the people I will be writing about mean. Here are some Bible verses that talk about someone who longs for the Lord, to walk in His ways.

God’s WORD

    “For he clave to the LORD, and departed not from following him…”—2 Kings 18:6

    “With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.”—Psalm 119:10

    “Incline my heart unto thy testimonies…”—Psalm 119:36

    “O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;”—Psalm 63:1

    “As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.”—Psalm 42:1

    “Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.”—Matthew 5:6

Some of these people talk about Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, and sins, but infer that a “burning heart” gets you closer to God and makes you more spiritual. Often suffering seems to be savored. In fact, some of these folks think they are helping Jesus out by suffering.

They think they can suffer for sins of others because they bypassed repenting and receiving true forgiveness through Jesus’ death on the cross and instead focused on a burning heart, thinking that helps them achieve union with Jesus or God, making them equal with God. Is that not what Satan promised Eve?

The Lord Jesus DIED—shed His blood—for our sins, NO ONE else can do that.

God’s WORD

    “…Unto him [Jesus] that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.”—Revelation 1:5

    “…that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”—Romans 6:4

    “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”—Colossians 3:16

    “And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”
    —Philippians 4:7

    “For we walk by faith, not by sight:”—2 Corinthians 5:7

The same fire/heart terms and phrases that the false belief systems use can be found at times in the language of so called evangelical Christianity. In my next 8 or so posts, I hope to present enough information so you can match up fire/heart words and phrases and concepts with what the Bible says. I am not judging whether they are true believers or not. I am simply trying to show what I have found. (One phrase or paragraph that someone says is not enough to make a decision. I challenge you to do your own research and compare it with the Bible.)

God’s WORD

    “But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live
    by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”—Matthew 4:4

    “Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”—Matthew 4:10

    “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
    angel of light.

    “Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness…”
    —2 Corinthians 11:13–15

3 D Part 1 burning heart, soul on fire: Babylon B C to 1175 AD